{"id":15821,"date":"2021-11-12T15:30:36","date_gmt":"2021-11-12T13:30:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/informatialibera.ro\/?p=15821"},"modified":"2021-11-12T15:30:36","modified_gmt":"2021-11-12T13:30:36","slug":"cser-ferenc-adatok-a-covid-19-tombolasarol-s-arrol-mi-a-legjobb-vedelem-ellene","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/informatialibera.ro\/hu\/cser-ferenc-adatok-a-covid-19-tombolasarol-s-arrol-mi-a-legjobb-vedelem-ellene\/","title":{"rendered":"Cser Ferenc: Adatok a Covid-19 \u201etombol\u00e1s\u00e1r\u00f3l\u201d \u2013 s arr\u00f3l, mi a legjobb v\u00e9delem ellene"},"content":{"rendered":"
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\u00a0Adatok a Covid-19 \u201etombol\u00e1s\u00e1r\u00f3l\u201d \u2013 s arr\u00f3l, mi a legjobb v\u00e9delem ellene<\/span><\/span><\/h1>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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K\u00f6zel k\u00e9t \u00e9ve \u201etombol\u201d a COVID-19 j\u00e1rv\u00e1ny. \u00c9rdemes ez\u00e9rt a re\u00e1 vonatkoz\u00f3 statisztikai adatokat megszeml\u00e9lni. A t\u00e1bl\u00e1zat els\u0151 oszlop\u00e1ban az orsz\u00e1g neve, a m\u00e1sodikban annak \u00f6sszes lakoss\u00e1ga, a harmadikban a pozit\u00edv COVID-tesztet produk\u00e1l\u00f3k (fert\u0151z\u0151d\u00f6ttek) sz\u00e1ma l\u00e1that\u00f3, az ezt k\u00f6vet\u0151 oszlopba az id\u0151szak alatt bek\u00f6vetkezett, COVID-19 betegs\u00e9gben elhunytak sz\u00e1m\u00e1t helyezt\u00fck, majd k\u00e9t vonatkoztatott adattal szembes\u00fcl\u00fcnk. <\/span><\/p>\n

Az els\u0151 oszlopban a lakoss\u00e1g megfert\u0151z\u0151d\u00f6tts\u00e9ge l\u00e1that\u00f3 sz\u00e1zal\u00e9kban.<\/span><\/p>\n

Az utols\u00f3 oszlopban pedig az 1000 lakosra jut\u00f3 COVID-hal\u00e1loz\u00e1sok sz\u00e1ma, az azt megel\u0151z\u0151 oszlopban pedig egy-egy orsz\u00e1g lakoss\u00e1g\u00e1nak megfert\u0151z\u0151d\u00f6tts\u00e9ge sz\u00e1zal\u00e9kar\u00e1nyosan. <\/span><\/p>\n

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El\u0151rebocs\u00e1tom, hogy a COVID-hal\u00e1loz\u00e1sok sz\u00e1ma el\u00e9gg\u00e9 mesterk\u00e9lt. A megfogalmaz\u00e1sa szerint minden hal\u00e1lt COVID-hal\u00e1lnak tekintettek, ami egy pozit\u00edv tesztet k\u00f6vet\u0151en \u2013 helyt\u0151l f\u00fcgg\u0151en \u2013 28, 30, ill. 60 napon bel\u00fcl t\u00f6rt\u00e9nt. Teljesen elvonatkoztattak a halottak esetleges m\u00e1s eg\u00e9szs\u00e9g\u00fcgyi gondjait\u00f3l, bajait\u00f3l, lett l\u00e9gyen az sz\u00edv-hal\u00e1l, trombotikus hal\u00e1l, esetleg r\u00e1k.<\/span><\/p>\n

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A n\u00e9pess\u00e9gi adatok<\/u><\/a> a vil\u00e1gh\u00e1l\u00f3r\u00f3l val\u00f3k.<\/span><\/p>\n

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A hal\u00e1loz\u00e1si \u00e9s fert\u0151z\u00f6tts\u00e9gi adatokat az MTI jelent\u00e9s\u00e9b\u0151l vettem (nem tal\u00e1lom a forr\u00e1st), de ezen linken<\/u><\/a> vannak eur\u00f3pai adatok.<\/span><\/p>\n

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A magyar adatokat szint\u00e9n az MTI november 9-i jelent\u00e9s\u00e9b\u0151l vettem.<\/span><\/p>\n

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A k\u00ednai adatok forr\u00e1sa itt l\u00e1that\u00f3.<\/u><\/a> <\/span><\/p>\n

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Az ezer lakosra jut\u00f3 COVID-hal\u00e1loz\u00e1st \u00e9rdemes \u00f6sszehasonl\u00edtani a v\u00e1rhat\u00f3 \u00e1tlag \u00e9letkorb\u00f3l ered\u0151 \u00e1tlag hal\u00e1loz\u00e1ssal, szint\u00e9n 1000 lakosra vonatkoztatva, a COVID-j\u00e1rv\u00e1ny hivatalos id\u0151tartam\u00e1ra (2020. janu\u00e1r 2. \u2013 2021. november 9. \u2013 azaz 659 nap): 75 \u00e9ves v\u00e1rhat\u00f3 \u00e9letkor eset\u00e9n: 24,06; 80 \u00e9v eset\u00e9n:22,55; \u00e9s 85 \u00e9v eset\u00e9n: 21,23.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Ami az adatokb\u00f3l l\u00e1tszik: a vil\u00e1g lakoss\u00e1g\u00e1nak m\u00e9g a k\u00f6zel 2 \u00e9ves \u201ej\u00e1rv\u00e1ny id\u0151szak\u201d alatt is csak t\u00f6red\u00e9ke fert\u0151z\u0151d\u00f6tt meg (2,5-14 % \u2013 a k\u00ednait itt nem sz\u00e1m\u00edtva).<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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A feltup\u00edrozott COVID-hal\u00e1loz\u00e1sok a v\u00e1rhat\u00f3 \u00e9letkorra vonatkoztatottaknak \u00e1ltal\u00e1ban kevesebb, mint tized\u00e9t jelentik \u00e9s meglehet\u0151sen sz\u00f3rnak (0,24 – 3,24\/1000 lakos \u2013 a k\u00ednait nem sz\u00e1m\u00edtva).<\/span><\/p>\n

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A magyar hal\u00e1loz\u00e1sok ar\u00e1nya a legnagyobb a vonatkoztatott orsz\u00e1gokat tekintve \u2013 Rom\u00e1ni\u00e1t \u00e9s Bulg\u00e1ri\u00e1t kiv\u00e9ve. Hogy mi ennek az oka? Magam a magyar n\u00e9pess\u00e9g rossz eg\u00e9szs\u00e9gi \u00e1llapot\u00e1ban l\u00e1tom a magyar\u00e1zatot. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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A k\u00f6vetkez\u0151 legmagasabb sz\u00e1m 2,85\/1000 lakosra a brazil hal\u00e1loz\u00e1s. <\/span><\/p>\n

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Kiugr\u00f3an kicsi mind a fert\u0151z\u00f6tts\u00e9get, mind a hal\u00e1loz\u00e1st tekintve a k\u00ednai adat (nem nulla, csak kevesebb, mint 0,01). Ennek statisztikai okai \u00e9s az eredm\u00e9nyesebb k\u00ednai eg\u00e9szs\u00e9gv\u00e9delmi okai egyar\u00e1nt lehetnek. <\/span><\/p>\n

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A k\u00ednai olt\u00f3anyag a hagyom\u00e1nyos, szaporod\u00e1sra k\u00e9ptelen\u00edtett v\u00edrussal t\u00f6rt\u00e9nik. Elk\u00e9pzelhet\u0151, hogy az val\u00f3ban ad v\u00e9delmet, de a nyugati olt\u00f3anyagok\u00e9 bizony siralmasan gyenge.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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De ugyancsak alacsonyak az indiai j\u00e1rv\u00e1ny adatai. \u0150k z\u00f6mmel k\u00ednai olt\u00f3anyaggal v\u00e9dekeztek \u2013 \u00e9s b\u00e1r a hal\u00e1loz\u00e1s abszol\u00fat sz\u00e1mai r\u00e9miszt\u0151ek voltak, a viszonylagosak nem azok. S\u0151t, nagyon is kedvez\u0151ek a t\u00f6bbiek\u00e9vel \u00f6sszevetve.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Felt\u0171n\u0151 az amerikai adatok nagys\u00e1ga is \u2013 els\u0151sorban a fert\u0151z\u0151d\u00f6tts\u00e9gi %, j\u00f3llehet, a hal\u00e1l\u00e1z\u00e1s ar\u00e1nya is \u00e1tlag feletti: 2.24\/1000 f\u0151.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Az adatok mindenesetre nem t\u00e1mogatj\u00e1k sem a v\u00e9szhelyzeti propaganda jogoss\u00e1g\u00e1t, sem az \u00e1ltal\u00e1nos gazdas\u00e1gi le\u00e1ll\u00e1s ig\u00e9ny\u00e9t.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Sv\u00e9dorsz\u00e1g adatait a fenti forr\u00e1sr\u00f3l k\u00f6zvetlen\u00fcl vettem le. Az\u00e9rt \u00e9rdekesek, mert m\u00e1s strat\u00e9gia szerint \u201ev\u00e9dekeztek\u201d, mint a t\u00f6bbi orsz\u00e1g. Az \u00e1tfert\u0151z\u0151d\u00f6tts\u00e9g\u00fck 10% k\u00f6r\u00fcli, a hal\u00e1loz\u00e1si ar\u00e1nysz\u00e1muk is \u00e1tlagos.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Azaz a ronda nagy bez\u00e1rk\u00f3z\u00e1s semmit sem jav\u00edtott ezeken a sz\u00e1mokon, a sv\u00e9dek a norm\u00e1lis eur\u00f3pai \u00e1tlagot produk\u00e1lt\u00e1k.<\/span><\/p>\n

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V\u00e9gezet\u00fcl egy szem\u00e9lyes tapasztalat arra vonatkoz\u00f3an, hogy mi seg\u00edthet a betegs\u00e9g legy\u0171r\u00e9s\u00e9ben \u2013 \u00e9s mi nem.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Mik\u00e9nt az er\u0151sen val\u00f3sz\u00edn\u0171s\u00edthet\u0151, az \u00e1ltal\u00e1nosan leromlott eg\u00e9szs\u00e9gi \u00e1llapot nem ny\u00fajt kell\u0151 v\u00e9delmet. <\/span><\/p>\n

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A k\u00ednai kiv\u00e9tel\u00e9vel ugyancsak kock\u00e1zatosnak t\u0171nnek az \u201eolt\u00f3szernek\u201d nevezett \u2013 val\u00f3j\u00e1ban g\u00e9nter\u00e1pi\u00e1s \u2013 k\u00e9sz\u00edtm\u00e9nyek. Ezek ugyanis \u00e9ppen azt rombolj\u00e1k le benn\u00fcnk, ami engem t\u00f6rt\u00e9netesen meg\u00f3vott att\u00f3l, hogy a koronav\u00edrus led\u00f6nts\u00f6n a l\u00e1bamr\u00f3l. <\/span><\/p>\n

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Testem term\u00e9szetes v\u00e9derej\u00e9r\u0151l, azaz saj\u00e1t immunrendszeremr\u0151l besz\u00e9lek. <\/span><\/p>\n

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Nem engedtem magam beoltatni, hi\u00e1ba bomb\u00e1znak itt a szervek, a korm\u00e1nyhivatal, ak\u00e1rkik… <\/span><\/p>\n

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Szeptember elej\u00e9n \u00e9reztem, hogy a bal szememmel valami z\u0171r van. Belen\u00e9ztem a t\u00fck\u00f6rbe, \u00e9s elsz\u00f6rnyedtem. \u00dagy d\u00f6nt\u00f6ttem, hogy ennek a fele sem tr\u00e9fa, elmentem az orvosi \u00fcgyeletre (szombat volt). Akkor k\u00e9sz\u00fclt az al\u00e1bbi szelfi.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Az \u00fcgyeletes orvos megn\u00e9zte, megm\u00e9rte a v\u00e9rnyom\u00e1somat, \u00e9s azt\u00e1n megbesz\u00e9lt\u00fck: ez mag\u00e1t\u00f3l meg fog gy\u00f3gyulni. <\/span><\/p>\n

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S csakugyan.<\/span><\/p>\n

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A k\u00f6vetkez\u0151 k\u00e9p szeptember 28-\u00e1n k\u00e9sz\u00fclt, az utols\u00f3 okt\u00f3ber k\u00f6zep\u00e9n. <\/span><\/p>\n

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T\u00e9nyleg elt\u0171nt a v\u00e9rv\u00f6r\u00f6ss\u00e9g. <\/span><\/p>\n

Azt\u00e1n \u2013 tal\u00e1n k\u00e9t hete \u2013 olvastam egy cikket. Ebben a delta vari\u00e1nssal kapcsolatban jegyezt\u00e9k meg, hogy gyakran a szemben k\u00f6t\u0151h\u00e1rtya gyullad\u00e1st okoz (ott hatol be), \u00e9s az \u00edr\u00e1shoz mell\u00e9kelt k\u00e9pen mintha a saj\u00e1t szememet l\u00e1ttam volna!<\/span><\/p>\n

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T\u00e9ny, hogy akkoriban fizikailag sem voltam h\u0171 de j\u00f3 form\u00e1ban, hamar elf\u00e1radtam.<\/span><\/p>\n

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K\u00f6vetkeztet\u00e9s: \u00e1testem egy COVID-19-es fert\u0151z\u00e9sen \u2013 de \u00fagy, hogy az eleddig t\u00f6nkre nem tett immunrendszerem tette a dolg\u00e1t. 83 \u00e9vvel a h\u00e1tam m\u00f6g\u00f6tt!<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Ahogy az influenza-j\u00e1rv\u00e1nyok idej\u00e9n is tette. Ha a pszich\u00e9m rendben volt, akkor vagy l\u00e1bon elhordtam minim\u00e1lis t\u00fcnetekkel, vagy egy egynapos k\u00f6zepes l\u00e1zzal meg\u00fasztam.<\/span><\/p>\n

Amikor kifektetett, el\u0151tte pszich\u00e9sen a padl\u00f3ra ker\u00fcltem \u2013 akkoriban nem volt j\u00e1rv\u00e1ny, m\u00e9gis elkapott az influenza.<\/span><\/p>\n

Mindez m\u00e9g ink\u00e1bb elt\u00f6k\u00e9ltt\u00e9 tett abban, hogy semmi sz\u00edn alatt ne engedjek semmif\u00e9le olt\u00e1si \u00f6nk\u00e9nynek.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Az immunrendszeremn\u00e9l jobbat \u00fagysem tudnak kital\u00e1lni!<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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A fenti cikket v\u00e1ltoztat\u00e1s n\u00e9lk\u00fcl vett\u00fck \u00e1t a szilajcsiko.hu<\/a> port\u00e1lr\u00f3l\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

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