{"id":11499,"date":"2021-08-06T09:58:59","date_gmt":"2021-08-06T07:58:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/informatialibera.ro\/?p=11499"},"modified":"2021-08-06T09:58:59","modified_gmt":"2021-08-06T07:58:59","slug":"elena-radu-raspunderea-civila-si-penala-in-cazul-aparitiei-unor-efecte-adverse-dupa-vaccin-oare-a-cui-o-fi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/informatialibera.ro\/elena-radu-raspunderea-civila-si-penala-in-cazul-aparitiei-unor-efecte-adverse-dupa-vaccin-oare-a-cui-o-fi\/","title":{"rendered":"Elena Radu: R\u0103spunderea civil\u0103 \u0219i penal\u0103 \u00een cazul apari\u021biei unor efecte adverse dup\u0103 vaccin – oare a cui o fi?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Se tot discut\u0103 \u00een ultimul timp c\u0103 nu ar r\u0103spunde nimeni pentru nimic \u00een cazul apari\u021biei unor efecte adverse sau a decesului ulterior administr\u0103rii vacc.<\/h2>\n

C\u0103 nu r\u0103spunde produc\u0103torul, c\u0103 ar fi avut statele grij\u0103 s\u0103 semneze astfel de acorduri? Eu nu prea cred c\u0103 e a\u0219a pentru c\u0103 exist\u0103 ni\u0219te legi, ni\u0219te regulamente, etc, iar\u00a0 \u0103ia de au semnat nu puteau s\u0103 inventeze alte legi. A\u0219a c\u0103 ce au scris ei pe acolo, tind s\u0103 cred c\u0103 poate fi considerat nescris. \u00cen fine, chestii de analiz\u0103 juridic\u0103, b\u0103taie de cap.<\/h2>\n

C\u0103 nu r\u0103spunde statul? Nu cred c\u0103 e a\u0219a, c\u0103 \u0219i statul are ni\u0219te obliga\u021bii, exist\u0103 o r\u0103spundere civil\u0103 delictual\u0103, etc. \u0218i aici alte analize, alte b\u0103t\u0103i de cap.<\/h2>\n

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C\u0103 nu r\u0103spund reprezentan\u021bii autorit\u0103\u021bilor publice? A\u0219a cum ne-a demonstrat istoria, acum nu r\u0103spund, doar peste ni\u0219te ani, c\u00e2nd se stinge criza. Timpul le va rezolva pe toate.<\/div>\n
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Dar cine r\u0103spunde acum, nu peste ani?\u00a0<\/strong><\/div>\n
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Eu zic c\u0103 vor putea r\u0103spunde frumu\u0219el medicii \u0219i voi explica de ce.<\/div>\n
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Toat\u0103 nebunia s-a generat pe fondul emo\u021biei sociale. Moarte, moarte \u0219i iar moarte, numai asta a rulat pe la TV: num\u0103r de paturi, sicrie, num\u0103r decese zilnice.<\/div>\n
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\u00cens\u0103, emo\u021bia social\u0103 generat\u0103 \u00een aceast\u0103 modalitate, cu toate c\u0103 a creat traume \u0219i a l\u0103sat urme, s-a cam stins. Oamenii au \u00eenceput s\u0103 se confrunte direct cu multe alte probleme, consecin\u021be ale m\u0103surilor impuse \u0219i \u0219i-au adus aminte c\u0103 moartea este un eveniment natural, de ne\u00eenl\u0103turat, a\u0219a c\u0103 nu mai sunt at\u00e2t de impresiona\u021bi de moarte ca eveniment posibil, tind mai mult s\u0103 fie mai aten\u021bi ca ea s\u0103 nu apar\u0103 ca urmare a propriilor lor decizii.<\/div>\n
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Dar, atunci c\u00e2nd te confrun\u021bi \u00een mod direct cu ea, \u00een urma decesului unui membru al familiei, atunci te afecteaz\u0103.<\/div>\n
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C\u00e2nd cineva \u00ee\u021bi descrie cazul lui personal, legat de un membru al familiei lui, devii empatic, la\u0219i emo\u021bia general\u0103 \u0219i te canalizezi pe situa\u021bia particular\u0103 a celui care \u00ee\u021bi poveste\u0219te suferin\u021bele lui.<\/div>\n
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Dac\u0103 mai este vorba \u0219i de o persoan\u0103 care \u00ee\u021bi poveste\u0219te de modul \u00een care stare lui de s\u0103n\u0103tate a fost afectat\u0103, \u00eel vezi direct, auzi din gura lui \u0219i \u00ee\u021bi mai prezint\u0103 \u0219i dovezi, te sim\u021bi afectat direct pentru c\u0103 vrei sau nu incon\u0219tientul t\u0103u \u00ee\u021bi spune cumva c\u0103, pe fondul \u00eentregii nebunii, puteai tu s\u0103 fii \u00een locul persoanei respective \u0219i s\u0103 fii tu cel care sufer\u0103 acum.<\/div>\n
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\u0218i uite a\u0219a, ui\u021bi de manipularea general\u0103 \u0219i tot ce a fost \u0219i te concentrezi pe cazul particular al celui din fa\u021ba ta \u0219i \u00ee\u021bi pui \u00eentrebarea: dar de ce? Cine r\u0103spunde pentru nenorocirea asta?<\/div>\n
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\u0218i acum s\u0103 lu\u0103m cazul unei persoane care ar avea un efect advers grav ap\u0103rut din cauza vacc. S\u0103 zicem c\u0103 mai este \u0219i copil \u0219i a paralizat. Ce faci?<\/div>\n
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\u00cencepi s\u0103 \u00eentrebi: Dar, cum a ap\u0103rut? C\u00e2nd? De ce? \u0218i de ce ai hot\u0103r\u00e2t s\u0103 te vacc? Cine \u021bi-a recomandat? Cu cine te-ai sf\u0103tuit? Cine te-a l\u0103murit? \u021ai-a spus cineva de efectele adverse? Cuno\u0219tea starea ta de s\u0103n\u0103tate? \u021ai-a f\u0103cut vreo analiz\u0103? C\u00e2t a stat de vorb\u0103 cu tine? A \u00eencercat s\u0103 afle ceva despre tine? Etc, etc.<\/div>\n
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R\u0103spunsul la multe dintre aceste \u00eentreb\u0103ri \u0219i altele va fi c\u0103 a vorbit cu medicul care i-a administrat vacc.<\/div>\n
\u0218i ghici ce? Cine va fi vinovat? Acel medic care a administrat vaccinul.<\/div>\n
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De ce? Pentru c\u0103 el a prescris vacc. Ceea ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 el trebuia s\u0103 fac\u0103 toate verific\u0103rile cu privire la starea pacientului \u0219i s\u0103 \u00eel l\u0103mureasc\u0103 pe deplin cu privire la riscuri \u0219i efecte adverse. Nu prea este suficient s\u0103 \u00eei dai tu o h\u00e2rtie s\u0103 bifeze ni\u0219te chestii.<\/div>\n
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Intr\u00e2nd pe\u00a0ANM\u00a0<\/a>\u0219i desc\u0103rc\u00e2nd excelul cu lista medicamentelor, am v\u0103zut c\u0103 aceste vacc au trecut la tipul de prescrip\u021bie \u201dPRF\u201d care din ce am citit ar \u00eensemna medicamente care se elibereaz\u0103 cu prescrip\u021bie medical\u0103 care se re\u021bine \u00een farmacie (nu se re\u00eenoie\u0219te).<\/div>\n
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Probabil dac\u0103 m-a\u0219 apuca s\u0103 citesc legisla\u021bia aferent\u0103, Codul deontologic, statute \u0219i ce or mai fi pe la medici, a\u0219 \u00een\u0219ira multe argumente \u00een sus\u021binere.<\/div>\n
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A\u0219a c\u0103 cei care ave\u021bi de g\u00e2nd s\u0103 v\u0103 duce\u021bi prin centrele alea de vacc, inclusiv cele de prin \u0219coli\u00a0 \u0219i crede\u021bi c\u0103 e suficient c\u0103 \u00eel pui pe pacient s\u0103 bifeze ni\u0219te chestii pe o h\u00e2rtie c\u0103 ai sc\u0103pat de r\u0103spundere, afl\u0103 c\u0103 nu prea e a\u0219a. S-a l\u0103sat numai impresia c\u0103 ar fi a\u0219a. Dar impresia asta o s\u0103 \u021bin\u0103\u00a0 p\u00e2n\u0103 se va solu\u021biona un litigiu \u00een care se va constata c\u0103 medicul a fost vinovat \u0219i a fost tras la r\u0103spundere. Atunci vei \u00een\u021belege c\u0103 h\u00e2rtia aia po\u021bi s\u0103 o arunci direct la co\u0219, nu te acoper\u0103 cu nimic.<\/div>\n
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La fel va fi \u0219i cu cei care av\u00e2nd p\u0103reri c\u0103 vacc. e obligatoriu de f\u0103cut, uit\u0103 c\u0103 mai sunt \u0219i medici \u0219i uit\u0103 s\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i mai fac\u0103 profesia cu obiectivitate.<\/div>\n
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Aaa, pove\u0219tile de pe la TV, minister sau colegiu? Nu v\u0103 ajut\u0103 cu nimic. Singurul lucru care v\u0103 ajut\u0103 este acela de a face \u00eentr-adev\u0103r investiga\u021bii cu privire la fiecare pacient, nu numai s\u0103 te faci c\u0103 faci \u0219i s\u0103 \u00eei spui omului detaliat riscurile la care se expune raportat la starea lui de s\u0103n\u0103tate \u0219i la efectele adverse (\u0219i nu numai alea de pe prospectul oficial, mai uit\u0103-te \u0219i la alea raportate, chiar dac\u0103 nu sunt recunoscute oficial, \u00eenc\u0103).<\/div>\n
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Dac\u0103 nu \u00een\u021belegi, uit\u0103-te mai sus, cine crezi c\u0103 va c\u00e2\u0219tiga dintre: omul suferind, cu efecte adverse ap\u0103rute \u00een urma vacc administrat de medic \u0219i medicul care zice c\u0103 alea au fost dispozi\u021biile\/strategiile\/campaniile?<\/div>\n
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PS: C\u00e2teva articole din Codul de deontologie medicala:<\/div>\n
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Art. 13. – Exprimarea consim\u021b\u0103m\u00e2ntului informat al pacientului pentru tratament nu \u00eenl\u0103tur\u0103 responsabilitatea medicului pentru eventualele gre\u0219eli profesionale.<\/div>\n
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Art. 58. – Pentru orice interven\u021bie medical\u0103 diagnostic\u0103 sau terapeutic\u0103 este necesar consim\u021b\u0103m\u00e2ntul informat al pacientului.<\/div>\n
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\u00a0Art. 59. – Consim\u021b\u0103m\u00e2ntul pacientului va fi exprimat \u00een condi\u021biile legii.<\/div>\n
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\u00a0Art. 60. – Consim\u021b\u0103m\u00e2ntul va fi dat dup\u0103 informarea pacientului asupra diagnosticului, prognosticului, alternativelor terapeutice, cu riscurile \u0219i beneficiile acestora.<\/div>\n
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